Is anybody paying attention to Kenny Boy's trial? Remember when everyone predicted that no one from Enron would serve a day in jail? Andy Fastow is already there, and now Lay and Skilling look to be in fairly big trouble. Wasn't this the biggest business scandal since the Teapot Dome? Shouldn't there be some kind of party in honor of this trial? Must I host again?
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a show trial designed to appease michael moore type loonies. get a rope and hang em, sure. but how bout giving me some money back? white collar crime cases are so lame/innefective. this is a fed rap, right? he does his time in boron, tanning and ordering lemonades from a towelboy named juan. bfd. oddly, i actually wanna see these guys fight it out and win. i want money, not blood.
money from whom? what? Lame? Ineffective? CEOs are going to jail and, probably more importantly, being publicly humilated. That's relatively new. No one thought Enron execs would stand trial, let alone see a cell, and now both are happening. I think all these high profile CEO's going to jail will have some effect, or at least make others think longer and harder before cheating wildly. Or maybe all we can expect is less brazen cheating.
This has nothing to do with Moore loonies. That's just silly. Everybody was appalled by Enron.
really? dont remember being appalled, just pissed that during the blackout some chicken i had in the fridge went bad. i thought it odd that a fucked company in texas could ruin my chicken. i want my bird dollars back, dammit.
i dont see a domino effect of good behavior out of this either; some bad apples will always be at the top and fuck up. most are good dudes, but a CEO who is not brazen is usually looking for another job. i guess it never riled me. I blame the chronicle...
well, if you're not appalled that the big boys are articifically pumping up the stock price while selling off their own and insisting to their own employees that all is well (which will ultimately cost many of them their savings not to mention those who bought into the Enron lies and lost everything) while taking glee in sticking Cali with hyperinflated gas prices that badly hurt our economy and screwed with the education budget and led directly to Arnold's "election" then OK, sorry about your chicken.
I'm not sure how you're defining "brazen" in that second line, so I'll refrain.
just dont care. my chicken and i appreciate your sentiment. brazen meant as bold. gray davis signed shitty energy contracts before the nonsense happened (i think). that was bad CA government, not TX fault.
i feel bad for Katrina victims; they were victims. Enron employees should have diversified. self inflicted stupidity i have little empathy for. I once worked a summer in a stock room at the Emporium. about a year after i left i got a thing in the mail asking me to join a class action suit; the owners had lost/swindled the entire co.'s pension. i think i had like $24 invested. people lost their savings and i learned all eggs, one basket, doesnt work.
more worried about google handing over porn search records. might have to flee...
bold and blatantly lying are kinda different, don't ya think? Especially when your lies directly impact how people invest. Especially when you're selling off your own shares at the same time.
OK, you don't care. Whatever.
Heres the thing about Enron. No one remembers. Americans have such short attentions and are so dumb they have forgotten or never eally understood how bad these guys were. BTW- that is a reason why they will probably walk. the jury wont understand the accounting, get annoyed, missed their wives and vote for an acquital. I hope they get life, but I dobt they will do time. I am a pessimist by nature.
Speaking of lawsuits, whya rent the democrats weekly giving updates on the 3 surrounding Bushies: Palme case, wire tapping, Katrina investigation? More proof the dems are losers who dont know how to win.
Plame case has no national significance; beltway nonsense. Wire tapping arab-americans? being anti-that has lost the GOP perhaps 4 total votes. Katrina - that's the ticket. 2 americas. where is Edwards???????????
Fastow didn't walk, and I don't believe Skilling will, either. Lay, we shall see. And it's not that complicated. I understand the cynicism, but it's a little frustrating. Everybody was cynical about putting these guys in court and now one of them is in jail and two more may be. Why be cynical about that? Will we ever know the effect it has on corporate culture? No, but I'm saying seeing all these prominent figures in cuffs sends shivers up other CEO's spines. Arrogance and short memories may ensue, but to say that it will have no effect seems too cynical to me.
And you may not care, but I still think a lot of people do.
I have no idea if warrantless wiretapping will help. Rove believes it will help, so that's why they're defending it the way they are.
Two Americas? Please. You really think a lot of folks who voted Republican will be moved by pictures of poor African-American's suffering? Now it's my turn to be the cynic
Rove believes it will help the Bushies, that is. I'm keyboard dsylexic
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/01.html#a6967
tuna, you may find this interesting
"You really think a lot of folks who voted Republican will be moved by pictures of poor African-American's suffering?"
Ah. Excluding the 9th Ward in LA, most who lost all were white. They werent on TV or at congressional hearings ranting of levee conspiracies, but they are out there. tap it, JE!
too late to tap, and that just wasn't the story that got told, fairly or not- the nation saw black folks, except for that dude who broke down on Russert about his friend's mom, and after a couple of weeks, we were on to the next scandal. It's scandal-saturation.
If you're so hot and bothered about Katrina (which, by the way, I agree with- I love it when you get hot and bothered), shouldn't Brownie and Hertz be held accountable in more punitive ways? Would you care if Brownie had a public hanging?
Going back to Tuna's email to CW, the man at the top needs to take the fall for Kat. Brownie fell on a sword so Bush could skate. That's shit. Also gotta give some anger to Blacno, possibly the worst governor in Amorica. Mary Landrieu I would still like to do.
Brownie didn't even fall on a sword- he was "moved," and given his emails while the whole shegang was going down, he should be shot
Cheney, however, was flyfishing.
At least Mayor Nagin stands tall with his call for a "chocolate New Orleans"
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